10 comments on “Halloween

  • “Though, like pigs at a trough, most horror fans will eat anything.”

    Where are you getting this from? Most horror fans tend to fall on the picky, but discerning, side. More than fans of just about any other genre, they will NOT eat just anything. This statement just came across lazy, uninformed, and condescending.

    “There is something not quite right about a theater full of people cheering when a murderer kills an innocent person on screen”

    Get over yourself…

    • My point was, Chris, that fans of this series (like many others, especially in the horror genre) have already decided they love the movie, even before they see it. They will forgive almost anything, just simply because they are craving what’s being offered, and because they are already inclined to love it. Condescending, yes, I give you that. It bothers me that there is a huge line for a film like this, that champions violence and murder, yet, hardly anyone will see a film that might truly make someone become a better person. Thanks for reading.

      • I understood what you meant, I just think it couldn’t be more wrong. Like I said, horror fans really DON’T go into a series like this knowing they’ll love each new entry and certainly don’t automatically love it after they’ve watched (ever heard people’s thoughts on the last two entries by Rob Zombie)?

        Also, I think that you’re being a bit judgemental by bemoaning the long lines for a movie that champions violence and murder. It’s not about that – it’s just escapist fun. You have to realize that movies are universal, but not everyone watches them for the same reason. Not everyone is a cinephile. Some people watch everything they can – they study, they ponder, they look for a way to be a better person theough each film they see. Other people are just looking for something to do on Saturday night and are casual filmgoers at best. There’s naught wrong with that. We can’t assume that everyone is looking to get the same thing out of a night at the movies. Some people, myself included, can appreciate horror flicks like this, along with a good documentary or a foreign art house film. You can’t paint it as if it’s so black and white.

        I love a nice filet mignon, but there are also times where I’m in the mood for a greasy burger…

        • I completely agree with what you are saying, and I really think you for a detailed and well versed response.
          My issue is that I attend 4+ public screenings a week. Screening for films that have not come out yet. The majority of the genre based ones (I’m talking your Venom, your Fifty Shades Freed, whatever Marvel or Horror film is out that week) the audience always applauds, everytime. I personally know people who watched Halloween in Toronto, raved about it, clapped as the exited, and then now, say “eh, it wasn’t really that great”. That is what I am talking about. They get caught up in the moment, the fanfare, the excitement of something new. They are not thinking clearly. I have written down in my notes for Rob Zombie’s Halloween flick that the audiences clapped for that too, however you are right, today, they bash it.

          • I understand – I am a critic as well and attend those same screenings. However, I think the reaction that you’re seeing kinda works against your point. At those press screening, we are not sitting amongst “horror fans” (or, fans of any other genre) specifically. We’re sitting amongsr people qho are willing to wait in line for several hours to see whatever free movie that they can get into. So, yes, they definitely applaud at these types of movies, but they are not the types of fans that you described in your review. They’re people that are happy they got to see a movie without oaying and are hoping to get more… Those same people will line up for anything. I just think attributing that to “horror fans” is misguided and inaccurate.

          • I guess we just have to disagree, the fans lined up in Toronto wearing masks, Halloween masks, etc, were certainly fans, and people paying to see the movie. But yes, the normal screening people also like anything, but I am talking more about people attending genre films at film festivals. Halloween is getting good reviews, I am in the minority, I understand that. But I review it just like I do any other movie, and for me it’s just more of what I have seen before, from the series, and from the genre.

          • I have no problem with you not liking it (I actually didn’t care for it, either – my review was far more scathing, and yet I’m a lifeling horror fan – go figure). This isn’t about your opinions of the film. I just take issue with your over generalization of what you consider to be “horror fans.” And, of course they were wearing masks and going crazy – they were there specifically for that event. They are excited to be there. It doesn’t mean they like everything that’s thrown at them. I just think you should seriously reconsider such a blanket, condescending statement about the fans of an entire genre. Yours made it seem as if you don’t feel that they can think for themselves and are more a part of a hive mind. You can hate the film all you want, but why throw in the unnecessary dig? It doesn’t suit you well at all… Or, maybe it does – I don’t know. I know I wouldn’t feel good about it.

          • I like that, a hive mind.
            I didn’t hate the movie at all, it’s neither worthy pr praise or hate because it’s so middle minded and in the middle ground.
            “Get over yourself”
            Who is the one throwing unnecessary digs?
            I guess my complaint is a larger one, that I am just turned off by a society who actually likes that type of thing, champions it, acts like it’s “the best movie of the year” when they won’t even go watch something like First Man or BlacKkKlansman or whatever movie that might actually make them better human beings.
            And I just have to disagree with you, the guys that get dressed up, stand in line for hours, they have predispositioned themselves to already like whatever they are fandom-ing. Rarely after all that self inflected hype can they have a critical and balanced opinion, in my experience. And now this argument has become as dull as the film. I am sorry if I offended you with my review, I meant no harm. But there are too many other, better films to be discussing than debating this mess.

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